Tuesday, 2008-05-27

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AMathewswoo new rvb series :-)00:10
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[OmegentooX]kblin, haven't you seen Mythbusters?  =)00:16
kblin[OmegentooX]: some of them, why?00:16
[OmegentooX]It's a bit of a running joke in the show how Jamie always keeps his shirts pristinely white while covering the rest of himself in grease00:17
kblinaha00:18
kblinoh well, bedtime00:19
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Crys_The guys are great. They are like little kids that are allowed to play with BIG toys. In every show they either put something on fire or create a big explosion.00:24
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r0bbyhttp://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/funny-pictures-circle-of-life-giraffes.jpg01:01
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otaridoi02:07
otaridsay, what do you think of this sprite: http://gamingw.net/pubaccess/23135/prince2_1.png (mainly the boy (the little prince), I'm still not done with the robot fox)02:08
Ori_Botarid: looks very... early 90s.02:09
otaridis that a good or a bad thing?02:09
Ori_BI like it =)02:09
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otarid:)02:09
otaridit's hard to come up with a good design for a robot fox at such a low resolution (it's actually x2 in that image)02:11
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r0bbyhttp://www.jroller.com/nivanov/entry/offbeat_linux_reboot_at_3502:19
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mlankhorstevening02:20
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MatthewWilkes'it had a bizarre name “GNU”' - wonderful, RMS must be foaming at the mouth02:26
mlankhorstHow bizarre02:28
mlankhorst;p02:28
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otaridwhat's the M in RMS?02:29
mlankhorst<shrug>02:30
otaridMatthew.. ok02:30
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r0bby.... do people code?02:51
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r0bbythey're *STILL* posting on the list02:52
* r0bby sets up gmail filters. 02:52
Ori_Br0bby: ...um. the default action for me when I'm on a list is to set up filters02:54
unimaurohi happy code02:54
Ori_Bmass "mark as read" is also very useful02:54
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r0bbyOri_B: no i filrter certain things02:56
r0bbyOri_B: i set them to filter out certain threads02:56
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pygigo to sleep people02:57
pygi:p02:57
mlankhorstIt's still daytime here..02:58
llnzit's 1pm here02:58
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r0bbyMon May 26 21:00:52 EDT 200803:00
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ankitgmorning ...05:40
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ankitgThe_PHP_Jedi: yay for the last attempts ... for they never end! :)05:53
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The_PHP_Jediankitg, heh. I really don't want to give up, but this is really getting tiring... two days on this already >>>05:57
The_PHP_Jedi>.>*05:57
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ankitgThe_PHP_Jedi: Last hope should be: Upgrading all *un*relevant packages =) ...05:59
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dirigeantnn all06:01
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ankitgThe_PHP_Jedi: g'nite then ... I am off to getting ready to go to school ... =)06:01
MatthewWilkesamazing...06:02
MatthewWilkesApple's grammar checker just tried to correct me06:02
MatthewWilkes"concept" - complex word choice, replace with "idea"06:03
MatthewWilkesthe mind boggles!06:03
The_PHP_Jediankitg, cheers.06:03
The_PHP_Jediankitg, thanks for stalking :P06:03
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spearceyea, concepts are too difficult for most people.  they stick with strong opinions.06:07
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spearcewhy have a conceptual framework explain how something works when an opinion is just as good?  :-(06:07
spearce"it is my opinion that gravity works by gluing people to the ground"06:08
MatthewWilkeshttp://idents.tv/videos/mitchellwebb_reckon.html06:08
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MatthewWilkes"You may not know anything of the issue, but I bet you reckon something"06:09
spearcethat was excellent.06:10
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Landonspearce: it is my opinion that gravity works by flinging people away from large masses06:14
Landonspearce: however, the zimnogeter forces push them back onto said large masses with more force than gravity throws them out with06:15
mlankhorstWhoah..06:15
* mlankhorst had a kernel build of 2 minutes 30 seconds06:15
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spearce100% buffer cache, no disk io?  :-)06:15
spearceccache?06:15
spearcedistcc?06:15
Landonyou the man, man06:16
spearcemake -j128 ?06:16
spearcewith 128 cpus? :)06:16
mlankhorstNah, new computer.06:16
mlankhorstI wonder what will happen if I build with -j06:17
spearceoh, that's the problem.  it was running linux.  new computers are supposed to come with adware that makes them slow down so you buy new computer again next year.06:17
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mlankhorstI heard spyware is taking over that role now.06:19
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mlankhorstHm, I think I forgot something, kernel won't boot. :-)06:21
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mlankhorstIt looks like I forgot virtual console support.. again.. <whitles>06:22
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mlankhorstspearce: What about smp=0 mem=128M to simulate vista? :-)06:27
spearcehah!06:27
mlankhorstOh and set cpu performance policy to powersave06:28
mithrospearce: hey06:28
spearceand actually prefer the sleep instruction to giving out a timeslice to a runnable task.06:28
spearcemorning mithro06:28
mlankhorst"give cpu time to blocked threads" ? :D06:29
spearcebecause otherwise how would the thread know it can unblock?  :)06:29
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mlankhorstAnd run compiz of course to get the vista effects06:29
* mithro has to be in at the plex at 9:00am tommorrow :/06:30
spearceyuck06:30
spearceis tomorrow your first day?06:31
mlankhorstfirst day starts later for interns. ;-)06:31
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mithrospearce: no, second week - but first day of offical training at MTV06:33
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mlankhorstI had to go to mtv for first week06:33
mlankhorstbit boring if you don't work there06:33
mithro(hopefully)06:33
mithrowith today being memorial day, nobody was able to tell me if the normal training was running06:34
compbrainmountain view is horribly borring06:34
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mlankhorstYeah but you got lucky to be flown out after first day.06:35
r0bbyI'm getting a new laptop w/ the first $2500 :)06:36
Incoh r0bby is a student...?06:36
Incwhat project r0bby ?06:36
Incpidgin06:36
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Incmithro: what do you do at mtv?06:37
* mithro is a Noogler06:37
mlankhorstHeheh06:37
Incsounds like a party06:37
IncI'd spank all the summer break chicks06:37
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compbrainI've been wandering aimlessly around mountain view yesterday and today06:38
Incfricken summer at the beach is the best06:38
mithrothe jet lag hit me pretty bad the last couple of days06:38
mithroso I've been sleeping mostly06:38
spearcewhat was the difference, 18 hours or something?06:38
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mithroyeah, 18 hours06:39
spearcethat's harsh.06:40
spearceworst i have ever had is 7 hours i think when i went to munich06:40
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mlankhorst18 hours difference wraps back to 8 hour difference06:43
mlankhorst6*06:43
spearceoh, yea, duh.  your body doesn't care much what day it is, just when feeding time and sleeping time are.06:43
mlankhorstIt can adapt rather quickly if you reset it right.06:44
mlankhorstI was awake the whole time and had a flight during the day.06:45
mlankhorstSo for my body it was just a long long day.06:45
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stackticmorning07:37
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mlankhorstmorning07:38
think_tankgood evening07:39
AJuOnLiNE_goood morning! *yawn*07:39
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nrpgood afternoon :p07:41
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mlankhorstAJuOnLiNE: It's evening here.07:44
AJuOnLiNEyeah.. but its always *good morning* on IRC like they say ;007:44
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AJuOnLiNEs/;0/;)07:44
mlankhorst<shrug>07:44
mlankhorstI'm wondering whether it's worth the effort to compile x.org by hand or not.07:45
spearceprobably not, unless you want to hack on it.07:49
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mlankhorstI'm considering that07:49
spearceand even, i'm not sure i'd want to translate to machine code from c by hand on paper.  that's gotta be like a million+ lines.07:49
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mlankhorstYou mean the paper C compiler?07:50
spearcearrgh.  its late.  "and even then,"07:50
spearceyes, pc. :)07:50
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spearcei reckon mlankhorst's paper C compiler could build it in 2 minutes 20 seconds. :)07:51
mlankhorstI think printing a paper will take less07:51
mlankhorstunless I need to find the printer in question first07:51
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spearceoh, code a C compiler in postscript, download it to the printer so you can print C code as assembly. :)07:52
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mlankhorstWhich architecture variant07:52
spearcei'm not sure it matters, i think it would lockup a printer for weeks printing x.org.07:53
Landonso close to finishing the book D:07:53
mlankhorstHahaha.07:53
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mlankhorstDefinitely.07:53
Landonyet oh so late07:53
mlankhorstI think a printer would run out of memory.07:53
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spearceyea.  but if you use a special assembler font or something and go back to old-school compiler tricks for parsing and compiling in limited amounts of memory (meaning don't code everything in C# CLR and assume memory is infinite like today's programmers do) you may actually be able to do useful work in 16-32M on a printer.07:56
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mlankhorstI don't assume memory is infinite, but my memory techniques are limited to "try not to crash, only fail operation"07:57
Landonheh08:00
LandonI think my computer has so many things queued up to do at 1 AM that the clock skips a second08:00
Landon12:59:59->1:00:0108:00
spearcei've been told there are 23 other hours in the day for your computer to get work done in.  i refuse to believe it. :)08:01
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spearcehah.  http://compilers.iecc.com/comparch/article/93-01-152  compile gcc with that, and uh, you have a c compiler in postscript. :)08:02
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spearceand then mlankhorst can compile x.org by printer.08:03
mlankhorstHahahaha.08:04
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mlankhorstI think I will get sysops on my back asking me why I killed a printer08:05
spearceyea, probably not a good idea to actually try with a printer.  or acrobat.08:05
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LandonYAY THE GOOD GUY WINS08:08
mlankhorsthehee08:08
Landonnow time to go to bed08:08
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The_PHP_Jedihm?08:08
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r0bbymajor typo08:10
r0bbyyou can tell i was tired of typing08:10
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Landon...?08:11
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r0bbyLandon: blgo post regarding my project plan and such08:16
r0bbyI wrote "my intern" instead of "my mentor"08:17
spearceyes, your mentor is doing slave work for you. :-)08:17
spearceask him to fetch you coffee.08:17
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* AJuOnLiNE just got my card08:18
r0bbyspearce: i wish08:18
r0bbyAJuOnLiNE: is it pretty?08:19
AJuOnLiNEr0bby: havent opened it yet. just got it. will do it after the shower.. when i am clean :P08:19
AJuOnLiNEjust woke up08:19
AJuOnLiNE:D08:19
r0bbyyeh08:19
r0bbyI'm eying the shower too08:19
mlankhorstAJuOnLiNE: Which one?08:20
AJuOnLiNEmlankhorst: Stored Value Card/MasterCard08:20
mlankhorstAh.08:20
* mlankhorst remembers sending an email about that.08:20
AJuOnLiNEyea thanks for that :)08:21
mlankhorstWell, Tiffany wrote the email and gave me the list, I just sent it to everyone.08:21
mlankhorstnp08:21
AJuOnLiNEby now everyone must have got the Book ? so we can already blog about it ?08:22
r0bbymlankhorst: do you work for google?08:22
r0bbyor is this volunteer?08:23
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mlankhorstI work at google as an intern on wine, but voluntarily do work for summer of code08:24
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kblinmorning08:27
r0bbykblin: morning08:28
r0bbywhat the hell i don't get it -- I don't feel like coding :<08:28
r0bbyGod, why can't I have code monkeys like microsoft?!?!?!08:29
spearcebecause housing a million monkeys with their typewriters takes up more space than you have?08:29
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r0bbyDAMN IT08:29
scorcheo_O08:30
r0bbyI hear my brothers house has a nice basement08:30
Catfish_Manuse quantum monkeys08:30
Catfish_Manin all possible states simultaneously08:30
r0bbyYeh, but then I have to feed the monkeys and shit (literally clean their shit)08:30
r0bbyAfter all that, it'd be better and cleaner for me to code it myself!08:30
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mlankhorsthmm08:34
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kblindurnit09:00
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kblinI hate it when DIY sets got different parts on their parts list than in their package09:01
ChipX86I hit that recently with some solarbotics kits09:01
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kblinTrying to build a mosquito-screen door for my balcony09:01
kblinand the parts list says 10 2.9x9.5mm screws09:02
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kblinand there's six of them, and four 2.9x4.5mm screws09:02
kblinwhich, if I use them for the handle and magnetic plates, should work as well09:03
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kblinand I seem to have misplaced my drill heads. not sure if I actually have a 2mm metal drill head09:06
kblinnothing a visit to the hardware store can't fix, of course09:06
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AJuOnLiNEok anyone here who has already got the card?09:36
* mlankhorst doesn't even have the book. :-(09:36
AJuOnLiNEbleh! :P09:37
AJuOnLiNEnot you mlankhorst ;)09:37
AJuOnLiNEmy 4 digit mismatches with the PDF09:37
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mlankhorstThe mail has instructions about it09:37
AJuOnLiNEwill have to email Tiffany09:37
AJuOnLiNEoh yes :)09:37
buzzlightAJuOnLiNE: I got the card just now09:41
* mlankhorst got the ace of spades card!09:42
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AJuOnLiNEbuzzlight: do you have the 4 digit mismatch too ?09:44
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mlankhorstMaybe you can swap digits <runs>09:44
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AJuOnLiNEarrr.. its the card :P09:46
* mlankhorst really hopes tgriffith won't have to do 1323 alteration09:50
AJuOnLiNEmlankhorst: no just update the corresponding excel like file :P09:50
mlankhorstIt's a google doc actually09:51
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AJuOnLiNE:) i said excel like.. so that still counts as valid \o/09:51
mlankhorstIf it were excel like, it would have to be a format that would work well on 8086 processors, contain binary hacks from that period and be mmap'd into memory without any problems..09:52
* mlankhorst whistles09:52
* AJuOnLiNE runs away09:52
AJuOnLiNEignorance is bliss09:52
mlankhorst;p09:53
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AJuOnLiNEtiffany is back from her leave right?09:54
mlankhorstOh and then you convert said format to have the representation in xml09:54
mlankhorstye09:54
mlankhorstYes*09:54
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AJuOnLiNEi like the corporate card payment idea..09:54
AJuOnLiNEdoes google pay its employees the same way ?09:54
thiagono09:55
mlankhorstI get a paycheck or I could do a wire transfer09:55
mlankhorstErm, no wire transfer09:55
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mlankhorstautomatic deposit on my acount thingy09:55
AJuOnLiNEok09:55
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buzzlightah, my 4 digit mismatch !09:58
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mlankhorstWell, maybe I'm not far off then.10:00
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mlankhorstAJuOnLiNE: Connecction trouble?10:02
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AJuOnLiNE_yeah10:03
LunohoDre10:03
AJuOnLiNE_they playing with the telephoone line..10:03
AJuOnLiNE_testing sumthing..10:03
LunohoDi've got wrong card10:03
LunohoDshit10:03
AJuOnLiNE_EPABX10:03
AJuOnLiNE_LunohoD: just read that document/pdf10:04
missedmy card's shipping date is 05-23 and now the status is still "Package data transmitted to FedEx"10:04
missedI got the book only 3 days after the shipping10:05
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