Monday, 2008-05-26

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jmorseAwesome, I just received an email from the future.00:22
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Landonsweet00:22
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* Landon wonders if you'll break if I send an email from the year 203900:23
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pygihey ho folks02:08
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eboettcherty02:08
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think_tankyay i got the second treasure hunt question correct02:13
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Kralnthink_tank: what method did you use on it?02:52
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* Lukstr waves02:56
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LukstrHello all. I've currently got a domain registered under GoDaddy but I dislike them, anybody know a good registrar alternative, or any that support DDNS?02:57
Landonnamecheap is what I us02:58
Landonuse*02:58
Landonit supports DDNS02:58
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Lukstrsexy02:58
Lukstrthanks02:58
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Landonand I think one or two of the ddns updater thingummers out there for linux have it set in02:59
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LukstrLandon: worst case scenario: cron script02:59
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Landoneh, I think they have instructions to modify your client if needed03:02
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Lukstryeah03:03
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Lukstrsweet, coupon!03:24
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mithrolh: ping?03:52
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Cpudan80Hey lh - you around?04:43
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* Ori_B likes the new Debian installer05:00
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Ori_Bit's ridiculously easy to set up software raid05:00
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mlankhorst Ori_B Console one?05:09
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Ori_Bmlankhorst: was using GUI one05:31
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*** lh changes topic to "Start of coding week - Yay! - Payment cards shipping out for students, see private list for details - Check http://google-opensource.blogspot.com to see stats - Summer of Code 2008 is on!"06:08
Catfish_Manwoot :D06:09
spearceyay06:10
* lh serves cocoa, cookies and iced tea. also coffee.06:10
spearceone of our students already has a huge part of his work finished.06:10
lhit's another fine year in soc land06:10
* Catfish_Man gingerly eats and drinks things06:10
spearceapparently he started a bit early. :)06:10
lhspearce: i have heard this from the psf guys too in one case - awesome06:10
lhspearce: want to do a gsoc podcast on git?06:10
spearceyea, that'd be fun06:11
lhyay!06:11
lhwe shall arrange later this week06:11
spearcesounds good06:11
* Ori_B is setting up his new desktop and watching 'the prisoner'.06:12
Ori_Bit's a very... odd.. show.06:12
luisfelipeWho is number one :P06:13
luisfelipehhhehe, it's really cool06:13
jmorseThey're re-making it06:13
luisfelipedunno what to think about that06:14
luisfelipeI mean, the new doctor who is awesome, and the new BSG also rules06:14
Ori_Bmm. I have yet to watch the new Dr. Who06:14
luisfelipebut I've got a feeling that they would screw The Prisoner if they were to remake it06:15
* Ori_B should.06:15
luisfelipeOri_B: you really should :P06:15
luisfelipeforget SoC06:15
Ori_Bluisfelipe: well, I'm not doing SoC =)06:15
* luisfelipe hopes none of the operators are watching06:15
luisfelipehehehe06:15
luisfelipe:P06:15
lhOri_B: cool06:15
* Ori_B is an ex-soc guy who sticks around for the discussion06:15
Catfish_Manluisfelipe: we're always watching06:15
lhOri_B: the new doctor who is actually quite good06:16
luisfelipeit's more than that :P06:16
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Ori_Bdo they keep the same odd sense of humor? =)06:16
luisfelipe"The girl in the fireplace" is probably the best episode of any series I've ever seen06:16
lh!timeline06:17
socinfo"timeline" is http://code.google.com/soc/2008/faqs.html#0.1_timeline06:17
jmorseAll hail Russell.T.Davis for Dr.Who. Pitty he's leaving.06:17
luisfelipejmorse: but Moffat is really good06:18
* brlcad hellos lh06:18
luisfelipejmorse: he's probably gonna do a damn fine job06:18
lhbrlcad: hello dear, how are you?06:18
brlcadpeachy keen06:18
jmorseHope so, but they've got a years break in 2009 D:06:18
luisfelipelh: you like nice stories about soc right ? I got to know Doctor Who during SoC 2006, working with BBC06:19
luisfelipemight be worth a podcast :P06:19
luisfelipehehehea06:19
brlcadluisfelipe: as in david tennant or the show's producers or something else?06:20
luisfelipeas in I had never heard of it before06:20
brlcadah06:21
luisfelipewell, actually had already heard about it on slashdot a few times, but never paid any attention06:21
lhluisfelipe: that is a great story actually. did you work on dirac or kamelia?06:21
luisfelipelh: dirac06:21
lhluisfelipe: cool.06:21
luisfelipebrlcad: unfortunately BBC R&D is not that close to the guys who are working on the doctor06:21
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nolaizhi!06:22
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lhnolaiz: hello06:22
nolaizhappy starting of coding for every students!06:22
lhgregarei: hello06:22
nolaiz:)06:22
lhnolaiz: yes. :)06:23
gregareilh: Hello :)06:23
* lh pulls decorations box out of corner, puts up streamers, etc.06:23
nolaizhi lh!06:23
lhluisfelipe: what are you up to this year?06:23
* brlcad is happy, one of his students has been coding for weeks already now06:23
luisfelipelh: LLVM06:24
luisfelipeyou were on BSDCan right ?06:24
* gregarei is happy he has been coding for weeks as a student06:24
lhluisfelipe: also cool. yes i was.06:24
luisfelipeapparently the BSD folks are really excited about llvm06:24
lhgregarei: good for you. got the next part of your project plan hashed out?06:24
luisfelipechris lattner presented it there06:24
lhluisfelipe: yes and yes.06:25
lhllvm ++06:25
luisfelipe:)06:25
lhthere is a dev meeting at apple that we are sponsoring06:25
* lh goes to send mail on that actually06:25
* Catfish_Man wishes he could go to that :/06:25
luisfelipeI'm aware :)06:25
luisfelipehopefully next year I can get to present something there :)06:25
gregareilh: Yep, hopefully I can keep this ahead of schedule. :)06:25
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* Ori_B goes to sleep.06:26
lhOri_B: rest well06:26
lhgregarei: awesome.06:27
lhluisfelipe: nifty.06:27
* lh wants an llvm compiler dev summit shirt06:27
luisfelipelh: send me one if they do make it :P06:27
* Catfish_Man wants a clang-powered Xcode06:27
luisfelipehehehe06:27
lhluisfelipe: ok. size? and you have to email me your address.06:27
lhand phone number06:28
luisfelipelh: seriously ? sweet :)06:28
luisfelipeCatfish_Man: probably pretty close06:29
luisfelipesome serious work being done on clang lately06:29
Catfish_Manluisfelipe: yeah. I'm waiting for NeXT runtime support for ObjC though. Most of the stuff I've seen on the mailing list has been GNU/Etoile06:29
luisfelipedavid chisnall from etoile has been doing amazing work on the objective-c front from what I've seen06:29
lhluisfelipe: why not?06:29
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luisfelipelh: :)06:30
Catfish_Manluisfelipe: once it matures a little more I'll throw adium at it06:30
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Catfish_Manpretty much 100% guaranteed to turn up crazy objc bugs06:30
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luisfelipeCatfish_Man: as soon as chisnall's patches are in, I think adding support for next's runtime shouldn't be too hard06:31
Catfish_Manyeah. I keep telling myself "no David, don't try to do it. You're too busy, and you don't know **** about compilers"06:31
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Catfish_Manbut it's so tempting06:31
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* lh has heard llvm is very very nice06:31
luisfelipe:)06:31
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luisfelipelh: after working a bit with gcc, I can tell you that it is, indeed06:32
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lhi believe you. :)06:33
spearcellvm is indeed a very cool project.06:33
* lh settles onto free couch with feet up, reads book06:33
Landonhm06:34
LandonI need a book reading chair06:34
LandonI wonder if theres any folding chair schwag to be had06:34
* prg3 needs to get his mentor back from the alps and commenting on design plans..06:34
lhLandon: no. i recommend 2nd hand stores or ikea - poang.06:35
lhmmm, alps.06:35
prg3couches are great places to code and work from :)06:35
lhLandon: http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S7984019806:35
gregareiJust make sure to wash couches fully if they seem too cheap06:35
* gregarei learned thah lesson the hard way06:36
Landonfrustrating connection06:36
lhif you get it with the black cover, it's only $90. though i still recommend second hand stores. or craigslist.06:36
Landonthanks lh06:36
Landonwhoa what D:06:36
LandonI dont have $90 for a book reading chair :(06:36
Landonlooks amazing though06:36
lhLandon: 2nd hand stores. got some of my best furniture there.06:36
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lhit is very comfortable and doesn't look half bad. and unlike most ikea <censored> it is sturdily built06:37
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Landonright now I jsut have the generic folding chair06:37
LandonI'd like to find a decent lawn chair type thing to replace it though06:38
lhLandon: it'll do.06:38
lhLandon: have you looked at craigslist?06:38
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Landonhm, havent yet06:39
Landonnot sure how big of a following itll have in Manhattan06:39
lhhrm06:39
lhLandon: oh there's plenty of listings. but sheesh. the prices. (06:41
lh:(06:41
Landonyeah :\06:41
Landonoh well06:41
Ori_Bheh. this year was depressing when searching for furniture.06:41
Landonnext semester I have an old blue la-z-boy coming up :D06:41
Ori_Bthere wasn't very much good stuff on the streets on moveout day06:41
lhLandon: nice.06:41
Landonguh, this connection06:42
lhOri_B: that's a bummer.  berkeley move out days are still quite the event. :)06:42
LandonI swear it hates me06:42
Landonhave to reconnect to wireless every few minutes06:42
prg3Try filling an empty house with appliances and furniture..06:42
Ori_Blh: last year there was some very nice stuff out there06:42
lhOri_B: like what?06:42
Ori_Ban awesomely comfortable couch06:42
Ori_Band fold-out bed06:43
Ori_Ba nice desk06:43
lhOri_B: oh wow.06:43
lhprg3: that's expensive. do they have the "in a box" sets near you?06:43
* lh still has her college pots and pans from her in a box set06:43
Landonhttp://www.dtiglobalstore.com/img/item39.gif06:44
Landonthats what I need atm06:44
Landonwould be tons more comfortable than what I have now: http://celebrityweddings.us/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/metal_folding_chair.245224927_std.jpg06:44
Landonanyways, all this talk about chairs06:45
Landonand I havent started reading yet06:45
Landonnew book, I'm scared to start06:45
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lhLandon: you can find those at military surplus stores for not much.06:48
lhThe_PHP_Jedi: hello dear. :)06:48
lhthat chair is just terribly uncomfortable06:48
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The_PHP_Jedilh, hello there :) Nice to see you around.06:49
Landonlh: good idea, there's a fort right outside of town, so bound to be tons of places06:49
lhThe_PHP_Jedi: i've been sick for the past week, off and on. nasty stomach flu. still here actually, but ah well.06:50
lhLandon: get 2, make a fake couch. ++06:50
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LandonI've only got one :(06:51
The_PHP_Jedilh, oi, that's never good :-/ Hope you get completely cured soon!06:51
* Ori_B goes to sleep for real now...06:51
Ori_Bdamned distractions.06:51
lhThe_PHP_Jedi: thank you06:51
lhOri_B: rest well. seriously. g'night06:51
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skbohrahi lh!07:02
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skbohrai am working on my project but i am not selected will i get t-shirt :)07:06
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r0bbyxkcd does it again07:16
r0bbyhttp://xkcd.com/428/07:16
r0bbylh =D07:16
r0bbyI got my project plan written in a flexible way07:17
r0bbyI get5 to learn as a i go :)07:17
r0bbyjust waiting for mah rubber stamp :D07:17
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r0bbythen i shall publish it :D07:17
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lhr0bby: yo07:23
r0bbyhey =)07:24
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r0bbylh: you should give people one more day07:24
r0bbymake the start tuesday07:24
lhr0bby: why does it matter? you self manage07:24
lhhave fun07:24
r0bbyheh =)07:24
* lh puts nose back into cat's cradle07:24
Catfish_Manmmm cat's cradle :)07:24
r0bbyI better finish07:24
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lhCatfish_Man: very good so far07:25
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Cpudan80lh you around?07:27
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Catfish_Man...07:27
Cpudan80sorry07:27
Catfish_Mancpudan80: what's up?07:27
Cpudan80client messed up07:27
Cpudan80Oh nothing much07:28
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Cpudan80I was just going to ask lh about those OReilly Safari things she had talked about before (maybe) :-)07:28
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lhCpudan80: oh yeah, forgot to post to the list. they won't give them out.07:28
Cpudan80I'm about to get it myself - but wanted to double check here first07:29
Cpudan80:-(07:29
lhyeah go for it07:29
Cpudan80Booo OReilly07:29
lhsorry dude07:29
Cpudan80But thanks for checking though07:29
lhthey are their own company now not o'reilly07:29
lhtho o'reilly is i guess part owner07:29
Cpudan80oh really?07:29
Cpudan80interesting07:29
Cpudan80Well - I can take it as a tax deduction anyway07:30
Cpudan80so all hope is not lost07:30
Cpudan80at least I think that would be a legit deduction.... I'll have to ask my tax man07:30
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lhi would totally ask, seems like a reasonable deduction to me07:43
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* lh curls up, nurses stomach ache07:43
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* Catfish_Man would donate his, but is in no better shape :/07:43
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lhsorry to hear that Catfish_Man07:44
* lh makes us both chamomile tea, relaxes07:44
* Catfish_Man sips07:44
Catfish_Manthank you :)07:44
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stackticmorning07:45
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lhCatfish_Man: yw07:45
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ankitglh: Got something for the Rhino-Virus? It just made me sleep for 18 hours ... now I am wondering where did that day go ...07:46
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r0bbyEast Coast: it's on like donkey kong07:48
r0bby(summer of code that is)07:48
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lhankitg: no. i will look this up. i am just plain exhausted, feeling yicky. and really need to sleep.07:50
lhmaybe i will....'07:51
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ankitglh: Sleep ... a day may go missing, but you feel so much better, it's almost worth it ...07:51
lhyeah, agreed.07:51
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AJuOnLiNE_goodnight lh take care..07:52
* ankitg plays soft music ...07:52
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[OmegentooX]Any US students know if you have to already be accepted to a school before you can send FAFSA results to them?  Or if you can send them to a place you might like to apply to?07:59
The_PHP_Jedig'night y'all07:59
AJuOnLiNEThe_PHP_Jedi: good night07:59
The_PHP_JediGood luck coding :)08:00
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The_PHP_Jediwell, I wish for high productivity while coding... coding + luck = adds nothing08:00
The_PHP_Jediexcept maybe bugs.08:00
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AJuOnLiNEGood luck coding! :0)08:04
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The_PHP_Jediwell, leaving for real now :P08:05
The_PHP_Jedicheers08:05
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dmitrig01|afkNight all08:15
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r0bbyzzzzzzz08:31
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mlankhorstevening08:33
* ankitg is off to the lab ... bye for now #GSoC08:33
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Landon:o08:44
kblinI'm really getting sick of this08:44
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mlankhorstwhat's up?08:45
kblinmlankhorst: I don't really feel like changing my last wine patch just because dmitry doesn't like it08:45
mlankhorstThat's code review. :-/08:46
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mlankhorstAt least you're in the same timezone as aj08:46
mlankhorstFor me it's even harder08:47
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kblinespecially as he started off with complaining about me using commas at the end of the initializers and then goes on to complain about the lack of consistency08:47
mlankhorsto_O08:47
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kblinbecause all of the file uses bloody commas for the last elements of the initializer lists08:48
kblinand it's valid C, not just a forgiving compiler08:48
kblinmlankhorst: this is not about the code at all, it's just about style08:48
mlankhorstgcc -W will warn about it, but that's just nitpicking08:48
kblinmlankhorst: it will? That's valid C08:48
mlankhorstIt's warning is more like: "You might have forgotten an element"08:48
kblinmlankhorst: at least when looking at the  C grammar printed in my K&R08:49
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Catfish_Mankblin: while(foo = bar) is also valid, but gcc (my copy at least) will "suggest the use of parentheses around assignment used as a boolean" or something like that08:50
* mlankhorst uses AJ syntax mostly08:50
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